Curse

ruffenredie · Aug 23, 2008, 07:35 AM // 07:35

So I'm spending a bit of time trying to work on my Ritualist, he's mostly channeling damage, with a few spirits, splinter weapon and a bit of healing. I definitely want to keep him that basic way, but I'm struggling to find a decent elite for him.

I spent 12k on an elite rit tome a few months back and acquired clamor of souls, before working out how rubbish it is. Now after having another look I see that pretty much all the decent elites seem to be late on in Nightfall, that's very annoying. 2 in the Domain of Secrets!

Why do the Rit elites seem to be so much harder to get than other professions?

I selected out 5 potential skills and only 1 is close to me in Factions:
Weapon of Quickening - close-ish to me now
Weapon of Fury - about half way through Nightfall....
Reclaim Essence - late in Nightfall.
Offering of Spirit - end of Nightfall
Caretaker's Charge - might as well be on the moon for me...

I'm broke so can't afford another tome, any ideas?

Pour One For Jose · Aug 23, 2008, 07:46 AM // 07:46

[Destructive Was Glaive]
[Offering of Spirit]
[Weapon of Remedy]
[Xinrae's Weapon]

best elites to me imo.

destructive is early in NF too.

Lhim · Aug 23, 2008, 08:02 AM // 08:02

Yes, most of the better Rit elites are late in nightfall. I believe I mainly used [spirit light weapon] before I got there. Simply because it's available earlier on. But I think [signet of spirits] would be a good choice for the time being.

upier · Aug 23, 2008, 09:18 AM // 09:18

[Assassin's Promise].

What ... ?

Lhim · Aug 23, 2008, 12:04 PM // 12:04

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Originally Posted by upier

[Assassin's Promise].

What ... ?

I should have seen this coming

ajc2123 · Aug 23, 2008, 12:21 PM // 12:21

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Originally Posted by upier

[Assassin's Promise].

What ... ?

He said RITUALIST elites, not secondaries. He was even discussing the Profession, not it's secondaries.

isamu kurosawa · Aug 23, 2008, 12:34 PM // 12:34

Running a hybrid Rt will leave few points spare for deadly arts. [[signet of spirits], [[spirit light weapon] and [[Attuned Was Songkai] are all decent elites available till you get access to the better ones later in nightfall.
Attuned happens to be one of the better Rt elites itself anyway.

upier · Aug 23, 2008, 12:36 PM // 12:36

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Originally Posted by deank81

I should have seen this coming

And I thought I'd catch people off guard!

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Originally Posted by ajc2123

He said RITUALIST elites, not secondaries. He was even discussing the Profession, not it's secondaries.

He obviously isn't utilizing his secondary.
AP can be capped quite early in the game.
It's WoQ, RE AND OoS all rolled up into one skill.
Obviously he's constantly broke - in which case - AP saves him the money for the elite tome and he can cap OoS/WoR once he gets further into C3. Until then he can abuse the hell out of AP (but given the insanity that is AP - he might actually end up saving the gold that he'd use on the cap siggies for those two skills ...).

ruffenredie · Aug 23, 2008, 02:12 PM // 14:12

thanks to all, definitely useful to get other peoples thoughts.

As for Assassin's Promise, actually that's a really good idea and it fits the background fluff I created for my character when I made him (I can't help but do this, even though it often restricts me later). I will head off to cap that asap and just shuffle my points around a bit to make it work. He's already a sin secondary, I just haven't used any sin skills. It'll certainly get me through until later in NF.

upier · Aug 23, 2008, 04:29 PM // 16:29

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Originally Posted by ruffenredie

As for Assassin's Promise, actually that's a really good idea and it fits the background fluff I created for my character when I made him (I can't help but do this, even though it often restricts me later). I will head off to cap that asap and just shuffle my points around a bit to make it work. He's already a sin secondary, I just haven't used any sin skills. It'll certainly get me through until later in NF.

My work here is done!

/upier swooshes off

ruffenredie · Aug 23, 2008, 06:37 PM // 18:37

My hero...... swoon

upier · Aug 23, 2008, 07:52 PM // 19:52

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Originally Posted by ruffenredie

My hero...... swoon

Best.
Reply.
EVER!

-Makai- · Aug 23, 2008, 08:55 PM // 20:55

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Originally Posted by isamu kurosawa

Running a hybrid Rt will leave few points spare for deadly arts. [[signet of spirits], [[spirit light weapon] and [[Attuned Was Songkai] are all decent elites available till you get access to the better ones later in nightfall.
Attuned happens to be one of the better Rt elites itself anyway.

To the OP: kurosawa has an excellent point. When running a channeling/resto bar, [Offering of Spirit] or [Signet of Spirits] would be a better choice. If you're using just one attribute line, go with upier's obsession...er...suggestion.

To upier: You could sell cobwebs to Arachni.

On topic: It is odd how so many useful Rit elites are found at the end of NF, especially considering the huge array of elite skills found throughout the campaign. That being said, these elites are incredibly useful overall and, in my opinion, most of them are worth getting (the new [Reclaim Essence] is pretty iffy, though).

snaek · Aug 23, 2008, 09:10 PM // 21:10

wuts wrong wit [preservation]?

Nightow · Aug 23, 2008, 09:11 PM // 21:11

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Originally Posted by Sante_Kelm

On topic: It is odd how so many useful Rit elites are found at the end of NF, especially considering the huge array of elite skills found throughout the campaign. That being said, these elites are incredibly useful overall and, in my opinion, most of them are worth getting (the new [Reclaim Essence] is pretty iffy, though).

Regarding the recently buffed elites...

[Xinrae's Weapon] > [Reclaim essence] By a large margin.

My only guess is that the role of a Ritualist has changed quite a bit from Factions to NF and Beyond. Hence, that's why the elites are better since they are more useful to today's Ritualist.

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Originally Posted by snaek

wuts wrong wit [preservation]?

Only good for 4 man areas (mostly RA/TA) due to random nature of the heals it produces. I'd rather go with [Life] or [Rejuvenation]+[Assassin's Promise]/[Signet of Creation]

Also, your spelling is another thing that's wrong.

Tyla · Aug 23, 2008, 09:14 PM // 21:14

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Originally Posted by snaek

wuts wrong wit [preservation]?

1. The heals are random and aren't designated by health status.
2. It's an elite that gives about 20 less health than capped out regeneration when it takes effect, and since it's random it's worse.
3. It's a spirit.

Cathode_Reborn · Aug 23, 2008, 10:09 PM // 22:09

Factions skills were purposely underpowered at start while NF's were purposely made overpowered. Anet said it themselves.

It just takes ages for them to actually balance them right, so NF's options are gonna look better for a long while...

Bowstring Badass · Aug 23, 2008, 10:13 PM // 22:13

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Originally Posted by upier

[Assassin's Promise].

What ... ?

You and this damn elite.

Honestly the best rit elite that can be gotten early is spirit light weapon until you can get to better elites.

Nightow · Aug 23, 2008, 10:19 PM // 22:19

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Originally Posted by Cathode_Reborn

Factions skills were purposely underpowered at start while NF's were purposely made overpowered. Anet said it themselves.

Source please?

snaek · Aug 23, 2008, 11:17 PM // 23:17

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Originally Posted by Tyla

1. The heals are random and aren't designated by health status.
2. It's an elite that gives about 20 less health than capped out regeneration when it takes effect, and since it's random it's worse.
3. It's a spirit.

yes...but in terms of op's criteria
its factions, and fairly easy to obtain

compared to elites like [weapon of quickening], [soul twisting], [defiant was xinrae], [tranquil was tanasen], and [clamor of souls] as mentioned by op....
[preservation] doesnt seem that bad